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Artist: Mindless Self Indulgence
Label: The End
Category: Music

List Price: £13.99
Buy New: £7.95
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Avg. Customer Rating: 3.5 out of 5 stars 3 reviews
Sales Rank: 12517

Media: Audio CD
Discs: 1
Shipping Weight (lbs): 0.2
Dimensions (in): 5.6 x 5 x 0.5

UPC: 654436010722
EAN: 0654436010722
ASIN: B0016IWI8M

Release Date: April 28, 2008
Availability: Usually dispatched within 1-2 business days
Shipping: International shipping available

Tracks:

  • Never Wanted To Dance
  • Evening Wear
  • Lights Out
  • Prescription
  • Issues
  • Get It Up
  • Revenge
  • Animal
  • Mastermind
  • On It
  • Pay For It
  • Due
  • Money
  • Bomb This Track
  • Mark David Chapman
  • Uncle
  • 3S
  • Electro Hurtz
  • Birthday Massacre
  • Tommie Sunshine
  • Spider Mix

Similar Items:

  • You'll Rebel to Anything: Remastered
  • Frankenstein Girls Will Seem Strangely Sexy
  • All Hope Is Gone
  • In Silico
  • Only By The Night

Customer Reviews:

4 out of 5 stars Fantastic Vinyl   September 24, 2008
Ordered this directly from the distributor (hence why I have it before the UK release date), and it truly is a brilliant set to have. The artwork is top-notch (no surprise, coming from artist Jhonen Vasquez), it includes all of the art he did for the album (including the cover of the deluxe version) in high resolution quality and is worth buying just for this reason alone.

The album itself is pretty good, though no-where near as good as YRTA, FGWSSS or Tight, but passable, despite a few throwaway tracks. The overall arrangement seems a lot better as well, with a reworked track listing spread across two Vinyl disks.

The main complaint I have is how, unfortunately the vinyl is treated as a second-hand product by the producers of the set, who made the ridiculous decision to include NO BONUS TRACKS. I mean, why?

The Clean version of the album gets the bonus track 'Uncle' (presumably because they feel sorry for them), and the UK version gets 'Uncle', 'S3' and FOUR remixes of 'Never Wanted to Dance' (because they feel really sorry for us!). Vinyl owners get squat.

But for collectablity and the artwork, it's well worth getting. Just download the other tracks.



3 out of 5 stars Yet another mindless rip off?   May 2, 2008
 4 out of 6 found this review helpful

The first reviewer (Mister Superstar) pretty much hits the nail on the head with his review, but I want to write my own anyway.
MSI's last full album (You'll Rebel To Anything) was unquestionably the most commercial of all their releases, but who's complaining when it was such a concise, consistent album with tracks that managed to stand up against (and on several occasions, better) material from Frankenstein Girls or Tight? I certainly wasn't. It marked a slight change in direction with a more polished sound and less confrontational songs than before (far less mentions of "niggaz" and songs that were perhaps geared more towards a slightly younger audience) but it nevertheless retained the fast, furious, sardonic and often ridiculous sound that people either love or hate MSI for. Things were looking good for the next release...

But... with this album... it just isn't quite there. The problem being maybe that now they've become much more well known (especially in the UK) they actually CARE how this album is received, at least, that's how it sounds: in some places - far too self-conscious and self-aware. Also, in general, much less spontaneous and in some places I found myself thinking, "where's the energy gone??". Some of the tracks could really do with being a bit faster, or at least have some more intense beats behind them.
I am by no means saying that this is a bad album, but as Mister Superstar pointed out, quite a few of the tracks are old demos, b-sides or from the unreleased album "Pink", and sadly, for the most part, these are the better songs (you can recognise them by the old synths or the high pitched vocals, the latter of which is sadly absent from the new tracks). "Mastermind" and "Never Wanted To Dance" are two of the best new, previously unheard (except live) tracks, and stand up well against old material, but on the whole "If" is, to be brutally honest, a disappointment. Worth it for many of the songs, but the others I find myself even more likely to skip than the more throwaway tracks on Frankenstein Girls.

I just hope MSI can stop being so over-eager to impress and make a better, more consistent album next time. Also, whilst I'm on the subject, I pray they'll go back to using pre-taped backing vocals at gigs so we can actually hear the whole song, many of them just can't be sung otherwise! and more importantly I hope they go back to their more spontaneous gig-style, I saw them 3 times last year and almost everything Jimmy Urine said was exactly the same each show, try and get hold of the really old concert video where he goes nuts and throws this dude out of the gig for no reason, you'll see the difference. Still, I guess they've got a lot of people to keep happy now, but for me, it just isn't working.



3 out of 5 stars Bomb This Album   April 25, 2008
 1 out of 2 found this review helpful

This being MSI's first offering for over 2 years, I was expecting something sharp, edgy and quirky as hell. It is evident with IF that time and effort has been implemented, and experimentation obviously is the main feature here, but alot of the time it comes off cheap and rather stale, they even fob you off with one or two demo's that have been around longer than i can remember. Had this have been a first or even second album for them it would have stood a much better chance, but with all the hype they have garnered over the past 5 years or so it isnt as simple as churning out yet another record with more of the same.

That being said, just because it sounds like previous material, thats not to say it sounds bad. It has some real gems, ancient demo "Bomb This Track" and the irresistible "Issues" are real standouts for me. Another great selling point is the level of humor... some of these tracks are Hiiiiilarious, "Get It Up" had me smirking from beginning to end. At the end of day, MSI fans will lap this up anyway... but you cant help feeling a little cheated. Newcomers would do well to start with this record, it is accessible and fun. If you accept this as what it is, more of the same, you wont be disappointed, if your coming in looking for something fresh id suggest trying something else.


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