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| Artist: Verve
Label: Parlophone
Category: Music
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Avg. Customer Rating:  7 reviews
Sales Rank: 7476
Media: Audio CD
Discs: 2
Shipping Weight (lbs): 0.3
Dimensions (in): 5.5 x 5.1 x 0.4
EAN: 5099923558922
ASIN: B001BZZ29C
Release Date: August 25, 2008
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| Tracks:
Disc 1
| • | Sit And Wonder | | • | Love Is Noise | | • | Rather Be | | • | Judas | | • | Numbness | | • | I See Houses | | • | Noise Epic | | • | Valium Skies | | • | Columbo | | • | Appalachian Springs |
Disc 2
| • | Space And Time | | • | Sonnet | | • | Life's An Ocean | | • | Rolling People | | • | Lucky Man | | • | Love Is Noise |
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They are better than this October 3, 2008
This is a 'difficult' album to say the least. After watching them play live last year I thought this album would be the kick in the backside the music world needs right now. Big music played with huge intent. Instead all we get is a diluted, uninspired, sloppy bunch of half-arsed ideas that seem to go completely against what these guys are about and what they can do live. 'Sit & Wonder' started out as a belting monster of a live track when they were first performing it. What on earth did they do to it in the studio?? They seem to have compressed the life out of it with McCabe's once immense guitar lines reduced to a tinny squeal. Ok so it's not a completely terrible album. There are moments in tracks like Judas, Numbness and Columbo where you can just about make out the fiery interplay that made this band so legendary in their early days and Love is Noise along with Valium Skies stand up perfectly well against the band's earlier hits. But in the end there's too many half-baked ideas for Forth to be a truly great album. In fact Noise epic just about sums this album up. It starts off with real intent but just as the hairs on your neck begin to rise, it deflates into blandness with Ashcroft, obviously bereft of ideas, lazily reciting some lyrics while the band try desperately to turn a half-arsed idea into an 'Epic'. Where's the fire of 'A Northern Soul'? The Innovation of 'Storm In Heaven'? Or the hook-laden melodies of "Urban Hymns? The only reason I can find for justifying buying this album is that at least you get to hear brief flashes of what was once a hugely talented and intense group of musicians. I'm sure I'm not alone in being slightly frustrated that Forth isn't what we were hoping for. However, despite this I am still glad they're back! Let us all hope that there is more to come because they are still a very special group of musicians and I'm not convinced the world has realized this yet!
 FIRST OF FORTH September 3, 2008
The current single"Love is noise"is pure and Classic The Verve so Consequently it is "The First of Forth!" and what an album it is!!
in years to come this could be thought of as highly as "Northern Souls" and "Urban Hyms" the fact that the only good two bands from Manchester have got back toghether with new albums,(the others being James)
The album features the classic traits of the Verve.epic productions and sonic explorations,this is a great album.
The accompanying dvd is also rather good as well.
Just think with james and The Verve back together whats the betting on Hermans Hermits aand with Joy Division/New order unlikely to get together again that would be three good bands to come out of Manchester!!!
 I bought the delux vinyl for 40! August 29, 2008
0 out of 1 found this review helpful
No matter what im sure I would have still splashed the cash for it but blimey this record is boring. The thing that gets me is if you heard the thaw session (the 14 minute jam the released for free when they 1st got back) you cant deny that these guys can still make amazing music...so why is this so bland? I am so very very surprised...when I heard Sit & Wonder live last year I thought they are totally playing for themselves and just bringing the jams to life...I really dont know what happened between then and now. I hope this grows on me, i really do, but I cant deny the constant urge to just skip over tracks. In fact today my mp3 player headphone input screwed up a bit and Appalachian Springs played in a almost dub format, the vocals were distant and the guitars chimed along and for a moment I thought hey its grown on me but then the input corrected itself and I was listening to department store elevator music. Im hoping that this record does grow on me, I even feel bad for writing this review..I mean at the end of the day the Verve are back and that means the universe is a slightly better place..could have been a lot better though. My final thought is they should just release rough jams or live recordings that capture the energy because this just lacks.
To say the least I'm very disappointed.... August 27, 2008
5 out of 10 found this review helpful
Ok, most people know there are 3 types of Verve and generally with that comes 3 types of Verve fan. Before the first breakup era, the Urban Hymns era and as a live band. Each one different and each one creates debate amongst fans so reviewing a Verve album isn't like reviewing an Oasis album. I'm a massive fan and have been since hearing This Is Music at 3am on MTV when Northern Soul was first breaking and I generally get everything people say. Yes, the stuff before the first breakup is pure awesomeness but not so easy for the average music fan to get into. Yes, Urban Hymns is commercial, perhaps too much so but still awesome. Yes, they can be amazing live (usually the case) and yes, they can be off form. But from the start till the second breakup there was an undeniable quality and when they were together the music they were making\playing was head and shoulders above anything being made\played at that time. You as a Verve fan knew that and this made you feel special, that you were there when these guys were doing this. Now there is a "Forth" type and a new debate will surely start.
First off I need to point out that I've seen this new Verve era live a number of times over the festival period and twice at the Camden Roundhouse last year and there's no doubt that whatever their reasons for reforming again, be it cash, ego, whatever, they can still do it live. The Friday Roundhouse gig will not be bettered whoever I see from now until the day I depart.
Onto the new album then: Disappointed. No... I'm truly gutted. All the excitement of them reforming, all the brilliant live shows, all the increased interest and content (the free MP3 of Mover was awesome).... washed away in over an hour of new material.
It's common knowledge by now that this band have always worked under a massive amount of tension between members and hearing some people say this is a reason for this being so poor doesn't sit with me. That tension was there when Northern Soul was made and was no doubt there when Urban Hymns was being done as well. This is not an excuse. Where are the songs? Where are the lyrics, the ones here are awful? Where is the most imaginative, original guitar player in history? Where is the spark, the drive, the moments only this band can produce? Where are The Verve? Not here!!!!
So what am I left with? Basically another dull, middle of the road Ashcroft album. The only difference is knowing that Jones played the bass and McCabe played, for the most part, non existent toned down guitar, and that kills me. Were they happy to do this? Maybe the money helped? I hate myself for thinking this way about "my" band, but that's what it's done to me. It's left me feeling like I did when they brought back Only Fools And Horses after the 3 classic final ones in the late 90's. They ruined the otherwise flawless reputation it had with lazy, badly written half arsed turd purely for the money!
Sit And Wonder - Good but not great, better live. Lacks real depth on the guitars. 7/10
Love Is Noise - Grown on me and with out doubt a totally different animal live, but still... that vocal thing!!! 7/10
Rather Be - Isn't this Check The Meaning from an Ashcroft solo album? It's identical. Ashcroft ripping off his own rubbish, oh dear!!!! 2/10
Judas - Obviously trying to get back to the very early years with this one. Not bad, but not special. 7/10
Numbness - Sounds like a really thrown together b-side jam they would have done in Northern Soul times, but worse. 5.5/10
I See Houses - You have got to be kidding me. It's just an Ashcroft solo song, and a really s**t one at that. 1/10
Noise Epic - Why? They used to be a band that could jam classics out, not anymore it would seem. 4/10
Valium Skies - Boring but better. 6/10
Columbo - Another substandard jam. Pointless rubbish. 4/10
Appalachian Springs - More Ashcroft bottom gravy of the lowest low. 3/10
My advice would be to stick to the 3 Verve types discussed at the start of this review and treat this as something else... it's not The Verve. Hopefully hearing these songs live will go some way to readdressing matters, but I have my doubts as it's that poor. Even McCabe's awesome live work will struggle to mask things. A real shame!!!!!!
 Pitiful, meritless, soulless money-driven comeback sellout extravaganza August 26, 2008
1 out of 3 found this review helpful
They did it for the money.
What other possible conclusion can you draw? From all accounts, they can't stand to be in the same room together, so they're not in in for the lulz. And with tracks this uniformly dire, they obviously didn't have an amazing set of songs which they simply just had to get back together and record, either.
The performances are half-baked; the songs are instantly forgettable (think Richard Ashcroft's solo stuff with any residual hooks or panache surgically removed); Nick's guitar is over-produced out of existence; remind me what it was that made Verve so great in the first place? Ah yes, the tunes and the music. Oh...
So is there anything good to say about "Forth"? Er.... um..... those clouds are quite pretty, aren't they?
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